Not-so-minor nitpick with an early point... The consumer carbon tax is not "gone", it merely had its rate set to zero. Does everyone believe that's not just temporary? Thanks to CTF for that nugget.
Leave the corruption and elitists behind and actually have a principled govt and republic that we can be proud of! Not the self-serving idiots that rule over us 😡🤬
If Carney truly tries to disengage this country from its long, advantageous relationship with the United States we will know for certain he's sold Canada out. The worst thing he could ever do is make an enemy out of our best friend.
Sort of. This kind of writing is usually seized upon by self-described “conservatives” but the sad historic truth is that so-called “conservatives” also tend to run up the debt, often MORE than so-called “liberals”. For example, it was Chrétien / Martin who balanced the budget after Mulroney ran up the debt, as did Clinton after Bush. I am not saying that Chrétien or Clinton are “good” or “bad”. I am saying your rhetoric is predictable and part of a larger pattern.
The conservative pattern is ALSO well entrenched:
1) trumpet tax cuts as the solution to most problems (which disproportionately benefit the wealthy)
2) increase debt to pay for tax cuts but don’t tell anyone there is a causal link between the two, just blame the previous “liberals”
3) can’t afford to provide services any more starve the services
4) as service delivery breaks down it is as an excuse to privatize
4) private services cost a lot more and serve fewer people creating more distress and inequality
5) recommend tax cuts as the solution… rinse and repeat.
Here's the thing John, the first thing you say is Chretien/Martin paid down the debt which i have to agree with. He hated Msrtin and kept putting him in charge of everything that he figured would destroy him and yet he did incredibly well, only to be removed from power due to all of the corruption of Chretirn's government. You blame the Mulroney government but its kind of funny, he did it with the tax, the GST, that Chretien had vowed to get rid of but was introduced by Muleoney. The GST, even though he knew it meant that his days as leader were over if he proceeded with it, not fur to his governments spending but because it was the only way to get out from the massive debt that was accumulated by uncontrolled spending by another name of sure you'll remember, P E Trudeau. The massive debt, uncontrollable interest rates, my first mortgage at the CIBC was at 14.5%, and inflation that would have most millennial wanting to use MAID as there'd be no money for weed, beer, wine, video games or any other past time but one thing was getting supported, infrastructure, when you went to a hospital with your thumb cut off, even if it wasn't at work, you wouldn't have to wait for 14 hours before you were brought in from the waiting room, kids graduated knowing how to read, write and do arithmetic as well as knowing what gender they were, highways like the 401 were being built and improved, schools were being built, immigration was working as we would import talent rather than permanent recipients of social payments in the way of welfare, unemployable or incarcerated due tk them not being compatible with our society(by the way, criminals were actually punished back then, unlike society today).
We also didn't prevent society from producing actual taxable, family supporting careers that weren't publicly funded. We didn't tell people this absolutely idiotic claim that every breath they exhale is reason for us to be taxed. Back then we figured that the government were going to try to figure out how to tax us for the air we breathe, instead they're taxing us for what we exhale, which causes plants to be green.
It was the Liberal government's that pushed us to change from paper bags to plastic ones to save the planet, uou know, the same government that is taxing us to death to save the planet again, even though they're not doing anything but shelling money out to their buddies with those tax dollars
Sorry but you misread my post. I did not “blame” anyone for anything. I pointed out that the tiresome and pointless habit of demonizing Trudeau and the Liberals is just propaganda, and the same venom can and is rightly pointed at Poilievre, the CPC, and the historic neoliberalism practiced (violently) since Pinochet and the CIA overthrew Allende in Chile.
Boring.
Thought-free.
Destructive.
Automated responses.
Too many people have been trained to respond with their talking points.
That training is the direct result of years of consuming propaganda. After all, we are swimming (drowning) in it.
I view articles like the OP as contributing to the environment of psychological warfare.
I don’t give a flying f**k about Liberals and Conservatives.
So you’re ok with the state of the country? Liberals can run us into the ground because according to you the Conservatives do the same…. Oh good. That’s a great response and exactly why we are in this economic crisis. I’m guessing you’re one of those “elbows up” people who don’t care that it’s the ones behind you who will be left cleaning up your mess. Shame on you.
No need to project so much of you onto a stranger (me) who you know nothing about. You have expressed a lot of old grievances. Oh well. I don’t experience that as on-topic.
All I am doing is calling out propaganda. Propaganda got us into this mess.
Stop the blame game. Focus on supporting actual leadership not posing (neither Trudeau nor Poilievre were leaders). Blaming all things “liberal” as a huge disaster is just propaganda. The so-called “conservative” alternative is just as bad or worse.
Articles like this one feed into the problems we are experiencing. They do nothing to solve them
Groceries haven't decreased in price since the carbon tax was removed and gas prices are back up again too? Something is rotting in Canada!
Not-so-minor nitpick with an early point... The consumer carbon tax is not "gone", it merely had its rate set to zero. Does everyone believe that's not just temporary? Thanks to CTF for that nugget.
And that my friends is why Alberta wants out!
Leave the corruption and elitists behind and actually have a principled govt and republic that we can be proud of! Not the self-serving idiots that rule over us 😡🤬
Why is it that Indigenous get twice as much as Healthcare, RCMP and Justice combined??
The liberal criminal government should all be removed for intentionally causing all this debt while they all became multi millionaires, 100% criminals
When do the tax increases to re-build our military begin?
If Carney truly tries to disengage this country from its long, advantageous relationship with the United States we will know for certain he's sold Canada out. The worst thing he could ever do is make an enemy out of our best friend.
Sort of. This kind of writing is usually seized upon by self-described “conservatives” but the sad historic truth is that so-called “conservatives” also tend to run up the debt, often MORE than so-called “liberals”. For example, it was Chrétien / Martin who balanced the budget after Mulroney ran up the debt, as did Clinton after Bush. I am not saying that Chrétien or Clinton are “good” or “bad”. I am saying your rhetoric is predictable and part of a larger pattern.
The conservative pattern is ALSO well entrenched:
1) trumpet tax cuts as the solution to most problems (which disproportionately benefit the wealthy)
2) increase debt to pay for tax cuts but don’t tell anyone there is a causal link between the two, just blame the previous “liberals”
3) can’t afford to provide services any more starve the services
4) as service delivery breaks down it is as an excuse to privatize
4) private services cost a lot more and serve fewer people creating more distress and inequality
5) recommend tax cuts as the solution… rinse and repeat.
Sorry Dan, your article is hackneyed propaganda.
Here's the thing John, the first thing you say is Chretien/Martin paid down the debt which i have to agree with. He hated Msrtin and kept putting him in charge of everything that he figured would destroy him and yet he did incredibly well, only to be removed from power due to all of the corruption of Chretirn's government. You blame the Mulroney government but its kind of funny, he did it with the tax, the GST, that Chretien had vowed to get rid of but was introduced by Muleoney. The GST, even though he knew it meant that his days as leader were over if he proceeded with it, not fur to his governments spending but because it was the only way to get out from the massive debt that was accumulated by uncontrolled spending by another name of sure you'll remember, P E Trudeau. The massive debt, uncontrollable interest rates, my first mortgage at the CIBC was at 14.5%, and inflation that would have most millennial wanting to use MAID as there'd be no money for weed, beer, wine, video games or any other past time but one thing was getting supported, infrastructure, when you went to a hospital with your thumb cut off, even if it wasn't at work, you wouldn't have to wait for 14 hours before you were brought in from the waiting room, kids graduated knowing how to read, write and do arithmetic as well as knowing what gender they were, highways like the 401 were being built and improved, schools were being built, immigration was working as we would import talent rather than permanent recipients of social payments in the way of welfare, unemployable or incarcerated due tk them not being compatible with our society(by the way, criminals were actually punished back then, unlike society today).
We also didn't prevent society from producing actual taxable, family supporting careers that weren't publicly funded. We didn't tell people this absolutely idiotic claim that every breath they exhale is reason for us to be taxed. Back then we figured that the government were going to try to figure out how to tax us for the air we breathe, instead they're taxing us for what we exhale, which causes plants to be green.
It was the Liberal government's that pushed us to change from paper bags to plastic ones to save the planet, uou know, the same government that is taxing us to death to save the planet again, even though they're not doing anything but shelling money out to their buddies with those tax dollars
Sorry but you misread my post. I did not “blame” anyone for anything. I pointed out that the tiresome and pointless habit of demonizing Trudeau and the Liberals is just propaganda, and the same venom can and is rightly pointed at Poilievre, the CPC, and the historic neoliberalism practiced (violently) since Pinochet and the CIA overthrew Allende in Chile.
Boring.
Thought-free.
Destructive.
Automated responses.
Too many people have been trained to respond with their talking points.
That training is the direct result of years of consuming propaganda. After all, we are swimming (drowning) in it.
I view articles like the OP as contributing to the environment of psychological warfare.
I don’t give a flying f**k about Liberals and Conservatives.
So you’re ok with the state of the country? Liberals can run us into the ground because according to you the Conservatives do the same…. Oh good. That’s a great response and exactly why we are in this economic crisis. I’m guessing you’re one of those “elbows up” people who don’t care that it’s the ones behind you who will be left cleaning up your mess. Shame on you.
No need to project so much of you onto a stranger (me) who you know nothing about. You have expressed a lot of old grievances. Oh well. I don’t experience that as on-topic.
All I am doing is calling out propaganda. Propaganda got us into this mess.
What is suggestion?
Stop the blame game. Focus on supporting actual leadership not posing (neither Trudeau nor Poilievre were leaders). Blaming all things “liberal” as a huge disaster is just propaganda. The so-called “conservative” alternative is just as bad or worse.
Articles like this one feed into the problems we are experiencing. They do nothing to solve them
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK? Thank you
Crazy! We are going to pay for this in inflation!!